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I didn't realize that Adobe was going to kill GoLive. I assumed they¡¯d keep the products separate to make more money. I¡¯m glad that only one will survive because, I¡¯m sure, in an effort to cut costs both products would suffer w/o the competition to make them better.

Another advantage is the products can be exposed to a large number of potential customers. Suppose you live in a town with 10,000 people. This is not very small town in the US. You have something to sell but within the 10,000 people, only 0.01% people may be interested in your product.

The company I work for wants to update their site. From what I¡¯ve researched purchasing either of the above programs will help me get something up sooner than straight coding and with a better result than using Microdevil¡¯s  FrontPage. As far as a learning curve is concerned, which would you recommend? Please discuss interface and editing in your responses.

Internet was created in the 70s as a military project. It started as about 3 computers at that time. Right now there are millions of machines on the internet.

I was just watching The Good The Bad & The Ugly just yesterday. I love watching those Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns.

Anyways, the site is has a little too much drawing the eye for me. I'd remove the 'a' symbol from the bottom of the page, and the green right-angle you have at the top-right. I also think the contact button shouldn't be isolated at the bottom of the page like that, but rather up on the main menu or even higher (after all, a charity will be seeking to gain alot of contact through the site - this is probably the most important part of the site, and should be considered as such in the design).

Before I give any other comments though ... is the main text of each page going to be crammed into the far-right section of tha page? Is there always goign to be such an overwhelming image to the left (the image with the green border around it), like on this page?

This is were am i heading with the type layout design. The middle is going to be a frame and the type doc. page will load into the window. Any type that breaks the edge of bottom frame will be scrollable.

This would be an example of the layout for the programs page.

I also modified the banners somewhat. Since the page has been created at 800 x 600 pix the whole thing will be visable at once. There for, i figure the contact in bold at bottom sticks out quite well and works with the design.

The type is there for layout purposes only. There are many grammer errors exist which are irrelevent at this time.

I wasn¡¯t the author of this thread, nor would I have started it! I have been in many discussions regarding this topic and since both of the Softwares in question continue to upgrade AND the two are now under one roof I think it is a VALID TOPIC. Were not just talking about which one is better.

Me being new here is really irrelevant. What is relevant is that Ryan decided to be a part of the discussion.

There is a rule of thumb regarding the forum culture. If you see a thread that you are not interested in, just ignore it. If you have some information that might be helpful to the author then apply some content. That¡¯s why I was anxious to see if Ryan¡¯s comments had any value.

I don¡¯t mind rehashing subjects like this. Especially with young designers who are anxious to learn and have a actual discussion on a forum.

Dream weaver may eventually be "forced to do things slightly different" as Adobe modifies the application conform to its interface standards, but NPD expects Adobe will ¡°reduce the pain¡± for the Dream weaver customer by offering Quark XPress keyboard shortcuts and more.

GoLive customers may see the product sold to another vendor, according to NPD. Not only would Dream weaver replace GoLive as Adobe's Web site creation package, but FTC regulations will likely require the sale of GoLive. "While future versions of GoLive will no doubt still be appealing to designers, the eventual integration of Dream weaver with other Adobe programs, not to mention Dream weaver¡¯s inclusion in future versions of Creative Suite, will entice many users to make the switch."

International mails even take weeks. Beside how fast emails are, emails saves a huge amount of paper, which in turn saves a lot of trees in the world. Maybe not a lot of people notice, but emails gave us more fresh air.

Later, this customer will "probably be able to buy a single suite of tools from Adobe, resulting in significant cost savings." Over the long run, Adobe will likely "offer this customer a suite of tightly integrated solutions, built on an ever increasing number of core technologies and common user interface elements."

Overall I agree with Ulysses. But your navigation bar starts of lined up with that grey bar over the white box and then continues on to float into nothingness (It looked like it was supported by the grey bar and then, weee we're floating in space!).

You might also play around with your grid a bit more and get more things lining up (i.e. "donate" button gets hacked in two by the vertical line below it) things like that.

Also, not sure if the body type should be serif as everything else is san-serif. You probably also have to make the text at least 12 pts. (it might be I just can't tell cause its a reduced picture) for the old people (sigh. ruining all the fun with small text).

Now almost everybody have a web. Some people just have a lot of websites. Some web sites provide articles to read. Some web sites are forums of special topics. Some sites are stores or shopping mall where you can buy whatever you like.

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