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This is were am i heading with the type layout design. The middle is going to be a frame and the type doc. page will load into the window. Any type that breaks the edge of bottom frame will be scrollable.

This would be an example of the layout for the programs page.

I also modified the banners somewhat. Since the page has been created at 800 x 600 pix the whole thing will be visable at once. There for, i figure the contact in bold at bottom sticks out quite well and works with the design.

The type is there for layout purposes only. There are many grammer errors exist which are irrelevent at this time.

Currently i use dream weaver, its an easy program to get to grips with imo, and there are lots of helpfull tutorials avaible for it more so than GoLive. Dream weaver offers a more or less better starting point to get your work together and on the web.

I have Go Live CS2 i haven't even bothered to install it when i was bought the Cs2 suite it was the only one i thought not worth the effort.

I wasn¡¯t the author of this thread, nor would I have started it! I have been in many discussions regarding this topic and since both of the Softwares in question continue to upgrade AND the two are now under one roof I think it is a VALID TOPIC. Were not just talking about which one is better.

Me being new here is really irrelevant. What is relevant is that Ryan decided to be a part of the discussion.

There is a rule of thumb regarding the forum culture. If you see a thread that you are not interested in, just ignore it. If you have some information that might be helpful to the author then apply some content. That¡¯s why I was anxious to see if Ryan¡¯s comments had any value.

I don¡¯t mind rehashing subjects like this. Especially with young designers who are anxious to learn and have a actual discussion on a forum.

Maybe nobody think people can shop online 20 years ago. But today, almost everybody do that. You can buy everything on the internet because you can sell everything on the internet. What is the advantage of the internet business via the local business? One advantage is the sales tax.

Dream weaver may eventually be "forced to do things slightly different" as Adobe modifies the application conform to its interface standards, but NPD expects Adobe will ¡°reduce the pain¡± for the Dream weaver customer by offering Quark XPress keyboard shortcuts and more.

GoLive customers may see the product sold to another vendor, according to NPD. Not only would Dream weaver replace GoLive as Adobe's Web site creation package, but FTC regulations will likely require the sale of GoLive. "While future versions of GoLive will no doubt still be appealing to designers, the eventual integration of Dream weaver with other Adobe programs, not to mention Dream weaver¡¯s inclusion in future versions of Creative Suite, will entice many users to make the switch."

I didn't realize that Adobe was going to kill GoLive. I assumed they¡¯d keep the products separate to make more money. I¡¯m glad that only one will survive because, I¡¯m sure, in an effort to cut costs both products would suffer w/o the competition to make them better.

They make you dependent on proprietary software to both manage and build your sites, when html, css, etc, can be just as easily edited with a nice text editor. The result is cleaner, more portable code, and a far stronger understanding of what you are doing. I have become a much better webmaster and designer since I stopped depending on the software to do it for me.

NPD predicts that Photoshop and Dream weaver customers will be least affected by the merger, as these products will remain largely intact. In the short run, the customer using both Photoshop and Dream weaver "won¡¯t need to do anything differently."

Not only that it¡¯s pretty pointless to have a spar of words when so many people in this forum already know our intentions. I think the general consensus is we don¡¯t shut down new designers and we do help but this is no attempt to justify us.

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