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They make you dependent on proprietary software to both manage and build your sites, when html, css, etc, can be just as easily edited with a nice text editor. The result is cleaner, more portable code, and a far stronger understanding of what you are doing. I have become a much better webmaster and designer since I stopped depending on the software to do it for me.

I didn't realize that Adobe was going to kill GoLive. I assumed they¡¯d keep the products separate to make more money. I¡¯m glad that only one will survive because, I¡¯m sure, in an effort to cut costs both products would suffer w/o the competition to make them better.

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NPD predicts that Photoshop and Dream weaver customers will be least affected by the merger, as these products will remain largely intact. In the short run, the customer using both Photoshop and Dream weaver "won¡¯t need to do anything differently."

Later, this customer will "probably be able to buy a single suite of tools from Adobe, resulting in significant cost savings." Over the long run, Adobe will likely "offer this customer a suite of tightly integrated solutions, built on an ever increasing number of core technologies and common user interface elements."

Which is better, you ask. They both have strong and weak points. I started out with Dream weaver and then eventually switched to Golive, mainly because all the adobe products (photo shop, image ready, golive, etc) talk to each other while designing. So it just makes things easier.

Really this has been answered many times. It really doesn't matter what you use as long as you know HTML and CSS. Web design is not print design knowing just software doesn't cut it.

The company I work for wants to update their site. From what I¡¯ve researched purchasing either of the above programs will help me get something up sooner than straight coding and with a better result than using Microdevil¡¯s  FrontPage. As far as a learning curve is concerned, which would you recommend? Please discuss interface and editing in your responses.

Going to buy an html editor, in order to make myself even more indispensable at work. I know a little and am currently reading a few books to help the process along, but I want to accelerate the curve.

I wasn¡¯t the author of this thread, nor would I have started it! I have been in many discussions regarding this topic and since both of the Softwares in question continue to upgrade AND the two are now under one roof I think it is a VALID TOPIC. Were not just talking about which one is better.

Me being new here is really irrelevant. What is relevant is that Ryan decided to be a part of the discussion.

There is a rule of thumb regarding the forum culture. If you see a thread that you are not interested in, just ignore it. If you have some information that might be helpful to the author then apply some content. That¡¯s why I was anxious to see if Ryan¡¯s comments had any value.

I don¡¯t mind rehashing subjects like this. Especially with young designers who are anxious to learn and have a actual discussion on a forum.

Way to tell the veterans how to post on their own forums. There is also a reason that old threads still exist, why they have a search feature, and why after seeing these threads popup all the time, it really gets annoying. Both programs are ass.

Dream weaver may eventually be "forced to do things slightly different" as Adobe modifies the application conform to its interface standards, but NPD expects Adobe will ¡°reduce the pain¡± for the Dream weaver customer by offering Quark XPress keyboard shortcuts and more.

GoLive customers may see the product sold to another vendor, according to NPD. Not only would Dream weaver replace GoLive as Adobe's Web site creation package, but FTC regulations will likely require the sale of GoLive. "While future versions of GoLive will no doubt still be appealing to designers, the eventual integration of Dream weaver with other Adobe programs, not to mention Dream weaver¡¯s inclusion in future versions of Creative Suite, will entice many users to make the switch."

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