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Not only that it¡¯s pretty pointless to have a spar of words when so many people in this forum already know our intentions. I think the general consensus is we don¡¯t shut down new designers and we do help but this is no attempt to justify us.

Overall I agree with Ulysses. But your navigation bar starts of lined up with that grey bar over the white box and then continues on to float into nothingness (It looked like it was supported by the grey bar and then, weee we're floating in space!).

You might also play around with your grid a bit more and get more things lining up (i.e. "donate" button gets hacked in two by the vertical line below it) things like that.

Also, not sure if the body type should be serif as everything else is san-serif. You probably also have to make the text at least 12 pts. (it might be I just can't tell cause its a reduced picture) for the old people (sigh. ruining all the fun with small text).

Going to buy an html editor, in order to make myself even more indispensable at work. I know a little and am currently reading a few books to help the process along, but I want to accelerate the curve.

If you buy from a seller with 0 feedbacks, you need to be very careful. Fraud exists everywhere, online or offline. If you buy from an online store, please make sure the store looks very professional and credible.

This is were am i heading with the type layout design. The middle is going to be a frame and the type doc. page will load into the window. Any type that breaks the edge of bottom frame will be scrollable.

This would be an example of the layout for the programs page.

I also modified the banners somewhat. Since the page has been created at 800 x 600 pix the whole thing will be visable at once. There for, i figure the contact in bold at bottom sticks out quite well and works with the design.

The type is there for layout purposes only. There are many grammer errors exist which are irrelevent at this time.

Which is better, you ask. They both have strong and weak points. I started out with Dream weaver and then eventually switched to Golive, mainly because all the adobe products (photo shop, image ready, golive, etc) talk to each other while designing. So it just makes things easier.

Really this has been answered many times. It really doesn't matter what you use as long as you know HTML and CSS. Web design is not print design knowing just software doesn't cut it.

They make you dependent on proprietary software to both manage and build your sites, when html, css, etc, can be just as easily edited with a nice text editor. The result is cleaner, more portable code, and a far stronger understanding of what you are doing. I have become a much better webmaster and designer since I stopped depending on the software to do it for me.

Way to tell the veterans how to post on their own forums. There is also a reason that old threads still exist, why they have a search feature, and why after seeing these threads popup all the time, it really gets annoying. Both programs are ass.

You don't have to make that choice next year cause Macromedia was bought by Adobe, and Go-Live is now...well dead seeing it will be getting the axe next release it is better to invest and learn dream weaver, you'll also save money on the future upgrades...and since go live will be dying, you'd need to jump to dream weaver at some point anyway.


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