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The IP is the phone number. If one computer like to talk another, he will dial the number of the other computer. If the computer responds, then they established a connection, in other words, a phone call.

Way to tell the veterans how to post on their own forums. There is also a reason that old threads still exist, why they have a search feature, and why after seeing these threads popup all the time, it really gets annoying. Both programs are ass.

This is were am i heading with the type layout design. The middle is going to be a frame and the type doc. page will load into the window. Any type that breaks the edge of bottom frame will be scrollable.

This would be an example of the layout for the programs page.

I also modified the banners somewhat. Since the page has been created at 800 x 600 pix the whole thing will be visable at once. There for, i figure the contact in bold at bottom sticks out quite well and works with the design.

The type is there for layout purposes only. There are many grammer errors exist which are irrelevent at this time.

I wasn¡¯t the author of this thread, nor would I have started it! I have been in many discussions regarding this topic and since both of the Softwares in question continue to upgrade AND the two are now under one roof I think it is a VALID TOPIC. Were not just talking about which one is better.

Me being new here is really irrelevant. What is relevant is that Ryan decided to be a part of the discussion.

There is a rule of thumb regarding the forum culture. If you see a thread that you are not interested in, just ignore it. If you have some information that might be helpful to the author then apply some content. That¡¯s why I was anxious to see if Ryan¡¯s comments had any value.

I don¡¯t mind rehashing subjects like this. Especially with young designers who are anxious to learn and have a actual discussion on a forum.

Having a good design is important for a store. When people are pleased with the looking of the stores, they are more likely to buy. But good design is not essential for a business. The most important part is good products and services.

International mails even take weeks. Beside how fast emails are, emails saves a huge amount of paper, which in turn saves a lot of trees in the world. Maybe not a lot of people notice, but emails gave us more fresh air.

The company I work for wants to update their site. From what I¡¯ve researched purchasing either of the above programs will help me get something up sooner than straight coding and with a better result than using Microdevil¡¯s  FrontPage. As far as a learning curve is concerned, which would you recommend? Please discuss interface and editing in your responses.

Currently i use dream weaver, its an easy program to get to grips with imo, and there are lots of helpfull tutorials avaible for it more so than GoLive. Dream weaver offers a more or less better starting point to get your work together and on the web.

I have Go Live CS2 i haven't even bothered to install it when i was bought the Cs2 suite it was the only one i thought not worth the effort.

Not only that it¡¯s pretty pointless to have a spar of words when so many people in this forum already know our intentions. I think the general consensus is we don¡¯t shut down new designers and we do help but this is no attempt to justify us.

Overall I agree with Ulysses. But your navigation bar starts of lined up with that grey bar over the white box and then continues on to float into nothingness (It looked like it was supported by the grey bar and then, weee we're floating in space!).

You might also play around with your grid a bit more and get more things lining up (i.e. "donate" button gets hacked in two by the vertical line below it) things like that.

Also, not sure if the body type should be serif as everything else is san-serif. You probably also have to make the text at least 12 pts. (it might be I just can't tell cause its a reduced picture) for the old people (sigh. ruining all the fun with small text).

Later, this customer will "probably be able to buy a single suite of tools from Adobe, resulting in significant cost savings." Over the long run, Adobe will likely "offer this customer a suite of tightly integrated solutions, built on an ever increasing number of core technologies and common user interface elements."

When considering a web hosting, a few things is important. No.1 is the reliability. Some hosting companies are not reliable. The might deleted your store without notification someday. And you might lost your business. The second is the speed. If the server is slow, it will drive your customers mad and they will not buy.

Which is better, you ask. They both have strong and weak points. I started out with Dream weaver and then eventually switched to Golive, mainly because all the adobe products (photo shop, image ready, golive, etc) talk to each other while designing. So it just makes things easier.

Really this has been answered many times. It really doesn't matter what you use as long as you know HTML and CSS. Web design is not print design knowing just software doesn't cut it.


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